Why are you always working on such weird ideas?
Apologies for hijacking the caption section of this post, but motorcyclette added a tag that really caught my eye: #imagine how much people would admire this character if they weren’t a woman
I feel like a lot of people dismissed or even disliked Moira, because she was kind of kooky, she had a goofy voice, she was relentlessly upbeat in spite of the bleakness of the world around her. And she sends the Wanderer on a bunch of fetch quests that can be unexpectedly challenging. There’s no guile to her and IIRC you can lie to her about the results of your quests with relatively low speech checks. She seems obsessive and a little nutty about her work and though it’s a bit frustrating that she stays in Megaton while you’re risking your life, she doesn’t force the Wanderer into anything and is still generally upbeat towards you even if you don’t assist with the research.
I’d never thought about the amount of hate she seems to get in the fandom in terms of her gender but that tag on motorcyclette’s reblog of this gave me pause. There aren’t that many relentlessly upbeat characters in the FO3/NV canon and the ones that are tend to be harbouring some dark secret (Andale and the Ultra Luxe spring to mind) or are part of some power-play by shadier forces seeking to manipulate the player (Yes Man and Victor were my first thoughts.)
While I suspect that very few people consciously hate on Moira because she’s a woman (though I’d hazard a guess that plenty of the people who do also have a lot of unresolved/internalised misogyny colouring how they interact with and feel about characters) it’s difficult to imagine that she’d get anything like the same amount of scorn and derision if she was a male character. She’d be the Wanderer’s kooky bro, with wacky ideas and sick rewards for relatively straightforward quests. There’d be “Good Guy Dudemoira” memes along the lines of “sends Wanderer on sidequest to locations right next to ones needed for bigger quests”.
Aspects of her character that are perceived as weak or annoying in a female character would likely be paraded as strengths (or neutral traits) rather than flaws in a male NPC. Moira is seen as weak, flighty, naive, nuts, or ignorant to the horrors around here where a hypothetical dude would be a genius who knows his physical limitations, a wasteland philosopher, a much-needed breath of levity in an unfamiliar and hostile environment. Moira doesn’t have the decency to be “hot” or scantily clad or sexually forward like a lot of the important female NPCs you encounter. If she was a dude, it wouldn’t even enter anybody’s mind to be annoyed that he wasn’t the hottest character or that you can’t drop twenty caps to fuck him.
Dude-Moira would be a hero for dedicating his life to learning and sharing information about how to survive in the wasteland, Moira’s a misguided irritant with an unhealthy obsession.
Moira is seriously the best character in fo3, far and away. I dont even remember most of the other characters.
I never really thought about that! I really liked her character and I never knew there was a hatedom against Moira.
This perfectly summarizes why I love the Simpsons and hate Family Guy.
I watched that episode with my family and I could just feel how uncomfortable everyone was. Honestly, it was a really jarring, unpleasant episode.
Homer is a terrible dad. So is Peter. But Homer’s saving grace has always been that he tries—he’s bad at it and he fucks it up a lot, but he loves his family and he wants to be better than he is.
One of my favorite Homer moments is in “Diatribe of a Mad Housewife.” Tl;dr Marge writes a steamy romance novel starring herself and Ned, and when Homer finds out, he chases down Ned and, rather than attack him, asks him to teach him how to be a better husband.
There’s some part of his stupid self that wants to do better.
I never got that impression with Peter. Instead, the family has gotten more and more abusive towards Meg. It’s really unsettling for me when I started realizing that’s what happens sometimes in abusive families. Abusers sometimes single out one child to abuse, and quite often the other family members take the abuser’s side. After all, it’s easier to side with an abuser than to run the risk of becoming the target yourself.
There’s never really a point where it seems like Peter cares at all that his shitty behavior impacts his family. It actually seems to have gotten worse over the years. He expects everyone to clean up his messes because that’s always what happens; there’s really no reason for him not to be shitty.
And it’s easy to see how Meg is affected. She doesn’t have much of a character, really, because so much her screen time is devoted to being abused. The bits of character development all seem to hinge on her being this sad, neglected person who’s trying her best but never really gets any help from anyone. Quite the opposite; there have been a lot of episodes where her family sabotages any attempts to be herself.
It can be easy to forget how awful this behavior is when the only context is the show itself (frankly, everyone on Family Guy is kind of terrible). Seeing it played against the Simpsons, who are a flawed and dysfunctional but ultimately loving family, was painful to watch.
And the thing is that so many young men and teenage boys find Family Guy to be the “funniest” show imaginable. They quote it endlessly and go on and on about it because that’s how the show was designed.
But along with all this crude humor they love so much, these boys are taking in normalized emotional, verbal, and physical abuse and domestic violence. All these things are a joke to them. A lot of shows are bad with this, but I think Family Guy is one of the all-time worst. Abuse and domestic violence is nothing more than a punchline. It’s not just a normalized thing in the plotline. It is the literal joke.
Plus all of the two female characters in this show—Meg, Lois—are only punchlines. (Haha insecure teenage girl! Haha hot mom! How original.) Nothing extremely wild and crazy happens to them, unless these wild things show just how “useless” and “silly” they are in the end.
I hate how abuse is handled in this show. I hate how women are treated in this show. I hate how racist it is. How homophobic it is. How crude it is. How it’s not OFF THE AIR ALREADY. And how obsessed men are with it. And how easy men are taking it all in.
I hate this show so much. I hate it hate it hate it!!
Family Guy at one point introduces a transgender character in which Seth McFarlane would describe “the most sympathetic portrayal of trans people in television” before she was introduced on the show.
The episode would go on to be one of the most transphobic things I had ever seen on TV.
The whole episode was “haha ew look at how gross this is” from beginning to end with no real reconciliation or amends. At one point McFarlane’s self-insert, the dog, violently vomits after coming to the realization that he had slept with a trans woman. Everyone makes fun of him for it. That’s it. She would have a few other appearances later who is often insulted for her identity and is even called a few slurs casually with no response as you’re supposed to agree with this shit. McFarlane’s response to the shitty, transphobic display of an episode, and the dog’s vomiting in particular, with an even shittier cissexist non-defense saying along the lines of “well, he’s straight and anyone would’ve done the same am I right?”
Knowing how (somehow) popular this show is to young people, many will watch this and think that this is right, many young trans people will see this and think “maybe there’s something wrong with me” which is frighteningly common when exposed to transphobic media at an early age. It’s absolutely terrible and it fuels me with an endless hatred.
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